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A warning about 'model welfare'

242 points · 701 comments · andsoitis

  1. hosel · · focus · HN ↗
    >AIs are not conscious. They do not feel, experience, or suffer. They do not have innate preferences or underlying motivations.

    Opening paragraph, stated without evidence. Im not entirely convinced this is true. It likely is, but at some point it very well might stop being true.

    1. optimalsolver · · focus · HN ↗
      Anyway, people don't really consider consciousness when it comes to welfare. I'm pretty sure animals are conscious, and look at factory farming.

      The key variable people consider is: Can this thing harm me back?

      1. collingreen · · focus · HN ↗
        Even that is rarely the deciding factor (people harm dangerous animals for fun).

        Seems as simple as "will this action bring social shame/criticism" for any individual decision.

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