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Hackers Got Inside a Flock Camera

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  1. driverdan · · focus · HN ↗
    This reporting was done in collaboration with 404media. Here&#x27;s the discussion for 404&#x27;s article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49726577">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49726577

    Distributed Denial of Secrets has published the partition images: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ddosecrets.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;flock-alpr-camera" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ddosecrets.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;flock-alpr-camera

    1. fullstop · · focus · HN ↗
      I poked around in the boot partition. The kernel is ancient!

      Linux version 3.18.71-perf-gaf770dc

      1. datakan · · focus · HN ↗
        The oldest supported kernel is 5.10 and that loses support in December. That&#x27;s wild they are using a 3.X kernel
        1. iririririr · · focus · HN ↗
          You&#x27;d be surprised how many things you use daily that people still backport the bare minimum to clig to 2.4.x forever
          1. anitil · · focus · HN ↗
            Yeah I&#x27;ve seen plenty of kernels that start with a 2 with no forward path possible due to &quot;we don&#x27;t know how to get our driver working anymore&quot;
          2. mrheosuper · · focus · HN ↗
            I really hope those don&#x27;t have access to any networks.
            1. iririririr · · focus · HN ↗
              good chance the linux running in your high end phone&#x27;s modem runs 2.x kernel.

              i dont deal with that anymorrle, but last one I saw with 2.x was the pixel 6 pro.

              1. mrheosuper · · focus · HN ↗
                Just check, my 2YO phone runs kernel 6.6, not latest but i think good enough for production.

                Edited: I misunderstood what you mean, you were talking about the modem subsystem, sorry.

                1. 306bobby · · focus · HN ↗
                  I don&#x27;t think you misunderstood, I think they&#x27;re talking out their arse. Modems don&#x27;t run Linux, they run RTOS operating systems. ShannonOS in the case of the Pixel 6 with a exynos modem
                  1. fullstop · · focus · HN ↗
                    I was working with a Telit 5G modem recently, and it runs OpenWrt. I was flabbergasted when I saw that.

                    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telit.com&#x2F;devices&#x2F;fe990bxx&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telit.com&#x2F;devices&#x2F;fe990bxx&#x2F; - &quot;High-performance quad-core CPU and Linux OpenWRT OS, ideal for router development without an external CPU&quot;

                    Plenty of cellular modems run Linux.

                    1. 306bobby · · focus · HN ↗
                      I&#x27;ll be honest I wasn&#x27;t considering off the shelf modem modules in my statement. I was talking about your typical cellphone modem made by Samsung, Qualcomm, mediatek. I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s some basic options and older broadcomm modems and stuff that still run Linux, but most people&#x27;s devices don&#x27;t have those
              2. 306bobby · · focus · HN ↗
                The pixel 6 pro runs ShannonOS an RTOS system, it&#x27;s an exynos modem
        2. 306bobby · · focus · HN ↗
          To be fair if you could SLTS support by CIP (which is designed for things like this) you have 4.19 at least still maintained. 4.4 might still be too but I&#x27;d have to check
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