The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week
Thread
Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.
The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week
Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.
wklm · · focus · HN ↗
nchmy · · focus · HN ↗
Endless more information on all of this at
<a href="https://infrequently.org/series/browser-choice-must-matter/" rel="nofollow">https://infrequently.org/series/browser-choice-must-matter/
<a href="https://open-web-advocacy.org" rel="nofollow">https://open-web-advocacy.org
CharlesW · · focus · HN ↗
Remember, Blink began as Google's 2013 fork of WebKit. They've embraced and extended it, but thankfully the "extinguish" step is taking longer than they thought. This makes the "open web, as long as it's my engine" people upset.
Safari's PWA support is not as complete as Chrome's today, but it's as good as Firefox's support and perfectly capable of supporting rich, standards-based apps. <a href="https://pwascore.com/" rel="nofollow">https://pwascore.com/
nchmy · · focus · HN ↗
I'll simply say that if you bothered reading anything (let alone objectively), you'd clearly see that no one is arguing for a blink monoculture. They're arguing for allowing everyone to choose whichever browser and browser engine that you want. Safari included.
The math isnt mathing on that site... And, no, safari is NOT capable of PWAs - which is the primary point of contention (not obscure APIs, though safari generally lags in all of that as well). They deliberately hobble PWAs and make them very difficult to install.
edit: also, your site is just obviously biased/poorly done, because there exist many better comparisons of web features, which show how vastly far behind Safari is, often even of Firefox. This is unsurprising given your chosen style of rhetoric
<a href="https://wpt.fyi/" rel="nofollow">https://wpt.fyi/
<a href="https://webstatus.dev/" rel="nofollow">https://webstatus.dev/
wklm · · focus · HN ↗
CharlesW · · focus · HN ↗
> And, no, safari is NOT capable of PWAs…
Incorrect, see my link. PWA installation on iOS is simple and idiomatic, and the same as it is for all websites: Share > Add to Home Screen.
nchmy · · focus · HN ↗
your argument amounts to "this person is incapable of being objective, let alone decent, because they work at xyz". Moreover, you literally didn't address a single thing presented in either link that i shared - which directly refute your nonsense. Pure ad hominem, and worse.
You are not a serious person if you think that PWA installation is "simple and idiomatic on iOS". It is buried multiple menus, taps, drags etc... deep. Most chromium browsers present a button right in the address bar or at least conspicuously in the main menu. Moreover, they allow developers to ask for the ability to prompt users to install the app.
<a href="https://adactio.com/journal/18252" rel="nofollow">https://adactio.com/journal/18252
<a href="https://adactio.com/journal/22757" rel="nofollow">https://adactio.com/journal/22757
Apple forces their employees to debase themselves in order to defend this status quo. eg:
<a href="https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1245" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1245
<a href="https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/619" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/619
Take care. And keep that math not mathing!
owebmaster · · focus · HN ↗
> Share > Add to Home Screen.
Are you sure "share" is idiomatic here?
Also calling a 6 steps process simple is laughable. One-click prompt to install is simple and part of PWA API that safari doesn't implement.
mig39 · · focus · HN ↗
Hit the share button, "Add to Home Screen" is very difficult to install?
CharlesW · · focus · HN ↗
If you can offer recommendations for data-based improvements, I'd sincerely appreciate it! It was made without any concern for Safari "winning", as is probably obvious since it has the lowest score. Methodology described here: <a href="https://pwascore.com/about" rel="nofollow">https://pwascore.com/about
nchmy · · focus · HN ↗
CharlesW · · focus · HN ↗
nchmy · · focus · HN ↗
CharlesW · · focus · HN ↗
> We can completely leave to the side that your weighting scheme is surely arbitrary or perhaps even biased.
Hover on any number to see both "raw" and "with experimental/non-standard features" scores. If you do this to the overall score, you'll see that Firefox benefits the most from this.