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EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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  1. softwaredoug · · focus · HN ↗
    I’m not sure this is a good thing for Canada.

    The EU feels like an incomplete experiment. Not strong enough to actually be a single market. But still able to create additional annoying regulations on top of nation level ones.

    The EU needs to be truly Federal to succeed economically. That might create uniform regulations with more uniform regulations and actually make Europe competitive.

    1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
      The EU shouldn't become the US. EU countries are sovereign, with the practical right to completely ignore what the EU tells them to do, and this is a good thing for now. If an EU country legalizes weed, federal troopers do not march in, arrest all the weed dispensary owners and march them to federal prison because those things don't exist.
      1. softwaredoug · · focus · HN ↗
        Ok but you have to accept that means an EU country works with a hand tied behind its back.

        In the US I can start a company and instantly have a market of 350M. Start a company in an EU country, then try to expand to another country, it’s a nightmare. That company will have a lower upper bound on market size.

        The EU might be a success in coordinating on regional issues, but I don’t think it’s yet an asset to the European economy.

        1. bean469 · · focus · HN ↗
          > In the US I can start a company and instantly have a market of 350M. Start a company in an EU country, then try to expand to another country, it’s a nightmare.

          This is not exclusive to the US, though. NordVPN is an example - it launched in Lithuania and now has global reach, and thousands of EU companies have went that path as well. I am not saying that it is on par with the US on this metric, but let's not pretend that such things don't happen in the EU

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