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1. neom · 1789557380 · focus · HN ↗

   No idea what this actually means, if it means easier trade, I'm all for anything that reduces our dependency on the yanks, as long as we don't need to be involved in their regulatory or legal regimes. The Americans are no longer our friends, Salut, mes amis Européens. :)

   1. method_capital · 1789561127 · focus · HN ↗

      I'm afraid you're mistaking our lunatic leader with "us". Understandable, but this step will be wholly unnecessary as soon as December when his power will be checked (largely). I lean right, more libertarian small government type, so you're not hearing this from a blowhard on the American left. His foreign policy, the way he's treated friends has been wanton and immensely damaging, and a whole lot of us want this corrected.

      1. mitxela · 1789561570 · focus · HN ↗

         The majority of US voters like the guy. He represents the country, like it or not. Most of his voters still agree with all the stuff he's doing, and the opposition seems intent on sabotaging themselves as much as possible so he will likely win again this year.

         1. strictnein · 1789562180 · focus · HN ↗

            The majority of US voters do not like the guy. 58.1% disapproval, 38.6% approval.

            1. mitxela · 1789562912 · focus · HN ↗

               The votes consistently tell a different story.

               1. Wowfunhappy · 1789563774 · focus · HN ↗

                  Trump won the popular vote once, not consistently, against an understudy candidate who was pushed on stage at the last minute. Also, opinions have shifted since that time as people have noticed how unhinged Trump is.

                  1. enoint · 1789565302 · focus · HN ↗

                     He won the election, not even by popular vote.
               2. strictnein · 1789563972 · focus · HN ↗

                  [delayed]

                  1. mitxela · 1789567636 · focus · HN ↗

                     That's all copium. Harris was a perfectly average Democratic candidate and an improvement over Biden.

                     1. method_capital · 1789579022 · focus · HN ↗

                        Clearly not an American.

                        Bernie has literally zero chance in a nationwide election. Read it again: ZERO.

                        1. mitxela · 1789601241 · focus · HN ↗

                           He was literally winning until the DNC de-primaried him partway through the election.

                           1. mitxela · 1789621554 · focus · HN ↗

                              de-nominated him partway through the primary, I meant
                           2. strictnein · 1789694606 · focus · HN ↗

                              [delayed]
         2. DaSHacka · 1789562508 · focus · HN ↗

            > so he will likely win again this year.

            What do you mean by this?

            1. mitxela · 1789562886 · focus · HN ↗

               I mean the Trump party will win in a landslide. Same reasons as last time. The opposition hasn't done anything to inspire more votes.

               1. jmye · 1789572782 · focus · HN ↗

                  [dead]

               2. DaSHacka · 1789578388 · focus · HN ↗

                  But Trump has been doing even worse.

                  The left things he's literally Orange Hitler, and the right is fractured between "hasn't done enough, mostly performative cruelty"/"MIGA"/"woah he's going to far, I just didn't want 'commiela'" types.

                  The one thing nearly everyone agrees on, however, is he is a disappointment. This much is evident from his absolutely underwater support in the polls, and how multiple states are likely to swing blue in the midterms.

                  1. mitxela · 1789601204 · focus · HN ↗

                     !RemindMe December

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