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1. noir_lord · 1789555669 · focus · HN ↗

   Good, if the middle power democracies don't align/work together they are going to get torn apart in the struggle between the US and China.

   1. dosisking · 1789556534 · focus · HN ↗

      There is no struggle, China has already won.

      1. baxtr · 1789556569 · focus · HN ↗

         In what way has "China already won"?

         1. Escapado · 1789557082 · focus · HN ↗

            I am not OP and obviously "winning" reduces too many dimensions into one. But I will say that from my recent two visits to the country that I was pretty astonished by the speed at which they are building things. Cars, Buildings, Tech Hubs, Factories. You blink twice and a new tech company plops up somewhere making high end drones or humanoid robots or CNC machines or innovative 3d printers. It feels like there is an absolute abundance of electrical and mechanical engineers in that country and funding to match. I am not making any comments on the politics of it all, but I have not seen this anywhere else in the world - perhaps it exists but I am not aware of it.

            1. vehemenz · 1789559799 · focus · HN ↗

               Agreed, but on other dimensions China is still 150 years behind the West. It’s important to keep this progress in perspective.

               1. input_sh · 1789560475 · focus · HN ↗

                  Go on, on which dimensions is China 150 years behind the West?

                  1. method_capital · 1789561317 · focus · HN ↗

                     Creativity, innovation, freedom? 10 guys in a room can't compete for long against hundreds of millions or billions pursuing their own separate interests. Sure, they can steal, but they can't create to the same degree if at all.

                     1. mitxela · 1789561861 · focus · HN ↗

                        Why is all the newest and best technology from China, outside a few specific fields?

                        1. RunSet · 1789563208 · focus · HN ↗

                           Why is there still demand for Chinese student visas at universities in the USA?

                           1. mitxela · 1789637135 · focus · HN ↗

                              Many reasons that have nothing to do with creativity, innovation, or freedom.
                        2. vehemenz · 1789914205 · focus · HN ↗

                           While we’re asking rhetorical questions, why is China’s cultural development behind tiny, poor European countries?
                     2. bryanlarsen · 1789563860 · focus · HN ↗

                        I recently read a survey of 14 promising new technologies: AI, EV's, drones, robots, batteries, et cetera. China was leading in 13/14, and is only 4 months behind on the 14th, AI.
                  2. vehemenz · 1789913588 · focus · HN ↗

                     History, philosophy, literature, journalism, art, education. The list goes on.

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