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EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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  1. neom · · focus · HN ↗
    No idea what this actually means, if it means easier trade, I'm all for anything that reduces our dependency on the yanks, as long as we don't need to be involved in their regulatory or legal regimes. The Americans are no longer our friends, Salut, mes amis Européens. :)
    1. FabCH · · focus · HN ↗
      Carney was asking for freedom of movement of goods, people and services, but without full monetary and legislative integration.

      So, easier to sell stuff, easier to buy stuff, free to just travel to/from Canada/EU and work there with no extra paperwork, free to buy and sell service from Canada to EU and vice versa.

      No Euro, no vote in EU, no ECJ, no payments into each others budget.

      Tighter integration than UK, not as tight as Norway/Switzerland/Iceland.

      Common defense was already agreed anyhow.

      I can tell you this enjoys broad support in the EU public. Although, no joke, a lot of peoples first reaction is: "They need to compete in Eurovision first. Otherwise they should wait for Australia to join first."

      1. shevy-java · · focus · HN ↗

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        1. 2muchcoffeeman · · focus · HN ↗
          > Eurovision is also stupid. Why is Israel part of it? That makes zero sense, even way aside from what war criminal Netanyahu is doing - it's not a european country. Something is wrong with the word EU. It constantly seeks to expand. So that is now a misnomer.

          Eligibility to compete is not based on country, but my membership to the European Braodcasting Union of which Israel is a member, and Australian SBS is an associate member and was allowed to compete as a special case.

          Don't bring Eurovision into it. Learn to lighten up and have some fun instead.

          1. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
            Agree, any country in the world should be able to participate in ESC, as long as the country agrees with peace, love and understanding. So yes, please ban Israel as soon as possible, together with any other countries that don't share these three very basic principles, that seemingly is easy for all the other participants to follow.
            1. 2muchcoffeeman · · focus · HN ↗
              I get that they’ve done dodgy things in the past.

              And I agree that they should behave in a consistent manner.

              But it’s a song contest…

          2. Cyph0n · · focus · HN ↗
            > Don't bring Eurovision into it. Learn to lighten up and have some fun instead.

            So then why was Russia kicked out?

          3. greenavocado · · focus · HN ↗
            > Learn to lighten up and have some fun instead.

            Easy to say if you haven't experienced the killings

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