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EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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  1. neom · · focus · HN ↗
    No idea what this actually means, if it means easier trade, I'm all for anything that reduces our dependency on the yanks, as long as we don't need to be involved in their regulatory or legal regimes. The Americans are no longer our friends, Salut, mes amis Européens. :)
    1. FabCH · · focus · HN ↗
      Carney was asking for freedom of movement of goods, people and services, but without full monetary and legislative integration.

      So, easier to sell stuff, easier to buy stuff, free to just travel to/from Canada/EU and work there with no extra paperwork, free to buy and sell service from Canada to EU and vice versa.

      No Euro, no vote in EU, no ECJ, no payments into each others budget.

      Tighter integration than UK, not as tight as Norway/Switzerland/Iceland.

      Common defense was already agreed anyhow.

      I can tell you this enjoys broad support in the EU public. Although, no joke, a lot of peoples first reaction is: "They need to compete in Eurovision first. Otherwise they should wait for Australia to join first."

      1. paganel · · focus · HN ↗
        > and legislative integration

        Does Canada's agricultural output follow EU's (quite strict) norms? Not sure if this falls under "legislative integration" but I'd say that it would be quite important to have settled. The same goes when it comes to Canada's work-related laws.

        1. noir_lord · · focus · HN ↗
          It's not an insurmountable problem if they don't have compatibility on standards

          It'll just take time to reach an agreement both sides can accept and it's in some ways simpler than something like the EU-Mercosur agreement since one "side" is a unified country rather that been two trading bloc's negotiating.

          It's fascinating watching the world re-align so quickly (by diplomatic/negotiation standards).

          1. justincormack · · focus · HN ↗
            EU signed a free trade agreement with Canada but its never been ratified
            1. rsynnott · · focus · HN ↗
              It's provisionally in force, though (fairly standard for EU trade agreements, which take _forever_ to fully ratify).
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