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EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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  1. tvbusy · · focus · HN ↗
    Good news. This world needs more cooperation and friendship.
    1. nephihaha · · focus · HN ↗
      It's not about friendship but money.
      1. wood_spirit · · focus · HN ↗
        There is a friendly trusting common values part to this too.
      2. cisc · · focus · HN ↗
        It's more about predictability.

        America's become erratic and untrustworthy. America's made a deliberate choice make its reputation worse.

        1. usewik · · focus · HN ↗
          Eh, on a long enough timeline we have seen this and been there before. US is the beacon of democracy and the free world until it is not, and then until it again is. Depending on who is speaking and about whom and when.

          Most of these attention grabbing statements by politicians are usually about scoring political points at home. The only thing worthy of judgement are hard facts, and excruciating details, which are yet to materialize on this topic.

          1. arethuza · · focus · HN ↗
            "US is the beacon of democracy"

            40 years ago I probably would have agreed with this statement - these days, not at all.

            1. usewik · · focus · HN ↗
              This was a kind of example, and not really the point of my comment.

              Though to illustrate further, there are many examples one might find of US acting undemocratically even 40 years ago.

              So, politicians will talk, governments will be in power, and the observers will discuss. My invitation was simply to discuss known facts not political rhetoric. And main facts are largely absent and unknown.

      3. baxtr · · focus · HN ↗
        Friendship is about values?
      4. frereubu · · focus · HN ↗
        Why not both?
      5. the_gipsy · · focus · HN ↗
        The true treasure is the friendship we made along the way.
    2. drstewart · · focus · HN ↗
      Define what "friendship" means here and how that differs from "economic or political interests", please?
      1. layer8 · · focus · HN ↗
        It means shared values and a willingness to hold long-term commitments.
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    4. dvrp · · focus · HN ↗
      You may not be interested in politics, but politics is interested in you!
    5. dudul · · focus · HN ↗
      Nations don't have friends, they have interests.
      1. Eupolemos · · focus · HN ↗
        Democratic populations have feelings towards each other, including friendship.

        There are plenty of nations I feel my nation has friendships with - if they were bullied, we'd stand up for them on pure reaction.

        Not everything is interests. People are people.

        1. sajithdilshan · · focus · HN ↗
          This is such a dumb take. Like 80 years ago the so-called Europeans were killing each other. 35 years ago there were 2 German nations that had animosity towards each other. This is why teaching history is important in schools so people don’t live in imaginary land
        2. dudul · · focus · HN ↗
          Thanks for the good laugh.

          Interesting that you didn't feel the need to say what your "nation" is, or their nation BFFs. It would have allowed us to dig into real data, but no, let's just use feelz instead :)

          People are people, and nation states are nation states. These are different entities.

          1. orf · · focus · HN ↗
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      2. xethos · · focus · HN ↗
        I'm not sure what you would call it, but the Whiskey War sure reads like a running gag between two friends to me.

        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Whisky_War" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Whisky_War

      3. MetroWind · · focus · HN ↗
        The fact that this is downvoted tells a lot about the average level of political literacy on HN
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