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Learning Programming in an Age of LLMs

263 points · 195 comments · moneroloop2018

  1. Trusteando · · focus · HN ↗
    IMHO, I think that it could be better if the question about how to learn programming in the age of LLMs were asked to someone who is learning now by using LLMs. Someone who learned programming thirty years ago can perhaps give you only one side of the coin, whereas someone learning today from scratch using LLMs could give you good advice on what the real difficulties are and where the main drawbacks lie. Combining both views would give a better idea of the landscape.
    1. sixtyj · · focus · HN ↗
      Difficulty is too many technologies available. So a beginner needs something/someone that teaches principles.

      I have realized that simplier (boring) is better. E.g. simple html5 css combo is better instead of trying to navigate in JS frameworks.

      1. octantes · · focus · HN ↗
        There is something to this.

        But I think at least in front-end engineering, the bigger question is what a new dev values.

        LLMs make the browser itself easier to understand in depth, if that's something you want. Building in vanilla-everything, no deps, is now doable at speed and scale for beginners too.

        Once you understand the web stack and the principles, you can migrate to any framework and understand their "magic" fast. I think that's not a bad learning path at all, if you use it well, and results in a more competent web-dev than the previous pre-LLM cycle produced.

        But if the beginner values output aesthetics and speed more than building their mental model, it is possible to spend years building things without developing any understanding.

        For me, at least, the more interesting question is how can we make beginners more interested in the former path than the latter.

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