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1. gizajob · 1789546655 · focus · HN ↗

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   1. DarkNova6 · 1789547198 · focus · HN ↗

      Believe it or not but the american system isn’t exact a blueprint for actual democracy. Many democratic systems don‘t make the election of the president a vote.

      1. gizajob · 1789547974 · focus · HN ↗

         Well funnily enough, virtually all the constituent countries of the EU do put the election of their president to a democratic vote.

         1. freehorse · 1789548824 · focus · HN ↗

            Not really. In many of them the president is elected through the parliament (which is democratic in the indirect sense only). In quite a few of them they still have kings/queens instead of presidents. So they do put the ones holding the executive power to a vote, but that's not necessarily the president.

            BUT in those countries the president (or royal) has mostly a more "decorative" type of role and not actual power. It is the government constituted by the parliamentary majority (or close to that) elected through general elections that holds the executive power. In EU there is no direct election of the president/commission, AND it holds most of the institutional executive power, which is what makes it undemocratic imo.

            1. gizajob · 1789549040 · focus · HN ↗

               Nevertheless, Von der Leyen is both unelected and non-decorative. Nobody else is speaking for the whole of Europe today.

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