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AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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  1. wewewedxfgdf · · focus · HN ↗

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    1. knorker · · focus · HN ↗
      What's you point? That if you had run your own DC in that region (because that was your business requirement) then you'd have better missile defense than AWS?

      Or maybe AWS or DIY, you are always responsible for geographic diversity?

      Anyone losing data over this lost it because they'd literally told AWS to only store it in one place.

      1. culi · · focus · HN ↗
        You don't need better missile defense than AWS. You don't need missile defense at all because you won't be a target. 99.999999% of the land has no missile threat on it. You are actively increasing the threat to your business by running it on the same servers that military contractors run their software on.
        1. knorker · · focus · HN ↗
          > You don't need better missile defense than AWS.

          Well, obviously.

          > You don't need missile defense at all because you won't be a target.

          No, you don't need it because you have offsite backups. And this is completely disconnected from whether you use AWS or DIY.

          > you won't be a target.

          Of missiles, maybe in this particular conflict, sure. But running a DC is not your core business, so which DC is more likely to be subject to burglary, power outages, diesel shortages (Amazon will have better negotiators than you), fire suppression, hell, private fire departments if needed, etc…

          Was missiles or copper thieves the biggest threat, even there, in 2020? Would AWS or every small company be better at protecting against the latter?

          1. culi · · focus · HN ↗
            Having offsite backups is great. Not hosting your infrastructure on a military contractor in Saudi Arabia is even better.
            1. knorker · · focus · HN ↗
              I feel like this is hindsight bias, and in a different scenario you'd be saying "not hosting your infrastructure in a DC without AWS level diesel backup contracts is even better".

              Which I already said, and you ignored.

              Anyway, it's all moot, because the military will now also spread out.

              You can go with "Joe's pizza and cloud services", hoping there aren't enough military workloads there, but where are you more likely to have an outage?

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