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AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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cmiles8 · 1789596948 · focus · HN ↗
This interview with an AWS leader isn’t aging well, from CBS Sunday morning:
Pogue asked, "I don't mean to give anyone ideas, but let's say I figured out that one of these unmarked buildings was an AWS data center, and I blew it up. Are you saying that it's so backed up and redundant that you probably wouldn't notice?" Wood replied, "Yeah, you wouldn't notice. I mean, we might be a bit upset, but you wouldn't notice!"
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1. krick · 1789598998 · focus · HN ↗
  That is actually surprising to me. Claims like that are pretty common, they make sense and they should be true, so even though I don't really know AWS (/Backblaze/Azure/whatever) redundancy planning in enough detail, I used to trust them. It's really worrying when they outright say it will be ok, and then a week later it turns out to be not ok.
  1. sandeepkd · 1789612952 · focus · HN ↗
    The devil is always in the details. Somehow I feel that when we offload the responsibility to some one else we get this feeling that the other person/entity would be doing full diligence and whatever else is required to carry out the job perfectly. However in reality most of the times they just do the bare minimum to pass your evaluation criteria to get the job.
    jvm___ · 1789629563 · focus · HN ↗
    It's funny because this applies to children cleaning home bathrooms as a Saturday chore as well.
    kakacik · 1789631763 · focus · HN ↗
    I think it applies to all humans of all ages in one way or another, these varying imperfections is what makes us what we are
    RugnirViking · 1789632734 · focus · HN ↗
    its not true. If everyone actually did the bare minimum, everything would screech to a halt immediately. In fact people doing that imo is part of what causes the decline of empires. You can, in fact, trust people further than you can throw them.
    Its a cousin of the mindset that the reason people don't steal is because they think they will be caught and rationally weigh up based on the value they gain and the chance of loss that its not a worthwhile action.
    No, most of the time people steal because they think its wrong, and they dont want to do it.
    Public trust is a real thing and varies massively by country. America is notably extremly low on this metric
    21asdffdsa12 · 1789644965 · focus · HN ↗
    One needs the state, the other needs intrinsic morals. One is a tax on all actions, the other forms working societies.

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