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Building a Linux GPU Driver for the M4 Mac Mini in One Month

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MoltenMonster · 1789511027 · focus · HN ↗
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> The author was banned from Asahi Linux for hiding his extensive use of LLMs from us in another attempted contribution, and (more importantly) for concealing that he is a former Apple engineer with direct contacts to the people involved in Apple Silicon development. Make of this what you will.
1. cromka · 1789512979 · focus · HN ↗
  I find it extremely ironic that big corp openly steals IP en masse to build their models but hackers are still concerned about using same models for their reverse engineering work.
  I think at this point the hacking community needs to grow some balls.
  1. cogman10 · 1789515692 · focus · HN ↗
    It's because it doesn't matter how copyrighted material ends up in a project. If an LLM reproduces copyrighted material (which is very hard to verify) then the lawsuit from the copyright owner can still sink even robustly funded projects.
    The fact is, open source has much more liability than closed source software does. If copyrighted material ends up inside a private code base it'll be nearly impossible for the owner to discover that and sue.
    1dom · 1789541928 · focus · HN ↗
    > If an LLM reproduces copyrighted material (which is very hard to verify) then the lawsuit from the copyright owner can still sink even robustly funded projects.
    Do you have many examples of this actually happening that you could share?
    I really don't see how this issue is going to be feasible for courtrooms to deal with in a world where big tech are bragging about large percentages of all their code being produced by LLMs.
    Gud · 1789542608 · focus · HN ↗
    Why wouldn't it be feasible for Apple, with an unlimited war chest, to go after Asahi? I am not saying they will, but it is certainly possible for them.
    1dom · 1789543407 · focus · HN ↗
    Because if it's feasible for any company with a war chest to start a court case about a competitor maybe having a matching line of code to theirs via an LLM, then basically every single company with a warchest would be at war with eachother, because they're all using LLMs.
    Business and code production would grind to a halt whilst basically every big tech company shares it's entire codebase with every other tech company for discovery. It's basically MAD.
    And if it was feasible, given we've had a couple of years of all the big tech companies heavily using LLMs, there should be some notable court cases by now, surely?
    justinclift · 1789545372 · focus · HN ↗
    Heh, sounds like it'd be along the same lines as the SCO Unix kerfuffle back in the day.
    mschuster91 · 1789547421 · focus · HN ↗
    Mutually assured destruction is what keeps everyone quiet at the moment.
    cromka · 1789547825 · focus · HN ↗
    These are very good observations indeed.

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