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1. MoltenMonster · 1789511027 · focus · HN ↗

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   &gt; The author was banned from Asahi Linux for hiding his extensive use of LLMs from us in another attempted contribution, and (more importantly) for concealing that he is a former Apple engineer with direct contacts to the people involved in Apple Silicon development. Make of this what you will.

   1. alightsoul · 1789512693 · focus · HN ↗

      Even if this is the case, this is still a valuable contribution to learn upon.

      1. MBCook · 1789513660 · focus · HN ↗

         It’s taint. Anyone who looks at it can’t work on a real open source driver because they will have had access to information they’re not supposed to.

         It won’t be clean room like the stuff Alyssa did.

         1. alightsoul · 1789513907 · focus · HN ↗

            Can&#x27;t this be used to make a clean room implementation? Have someone write a spec then someone else who is unrelated, implement it from scratch?

            1. danielheath · 1789514586 · focus · HN ↗

               &quot;Person A was under NDA, so we got them to pass their knowledge to person B, then had person B do the work - that&#x27;s clean-room, right?&quot;

               Judges, as far as I know, do not generally take kindly to such arguments.

               1. alightsoul · 1789515684 · focus · HN ↗

                  So what if person a and person b are unrelated and person b found it on their own? There are countries in the global south that never had an industrial revolution and don&#x27;t speak English and never had factories for export nor made anything in a factory industrially that isn&#x27;t building material and food and maybe fuel for local consumption so they&#x27;ve never had an IP infringement case

                  1. danielheath · 1789520870 · focus · HN ↗

                     &gt; what if person a and person b are unrelated and person b found it on their own

                     That&#x27;s what&#x27;s referred to as a &quot;clean room implementation&quot; further up the thread.

                     However, this specific thread is about the scenario where an employee has inside knowledge and is passing that knowledge on to the implementer.

                     Legally speaking, a clean room implementation has much better defenses from claims of copyright violation.

                     1. alightsoul · 1789532744 · focus · HN ↗

                        I mean person b found the work of person a on their own

                        1. danielheath · 1789689023 · focus · HN ↗

                           Person A has failed to secure private material, and person B can hardly claim their implementation is “clean room” if they based it on other work.

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