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Introducing System One Models and Jev

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  1. big_toast · · focus · HN ↗
    It seems like the docs[0] are a better explanation? The comparison to llm tokens is kinda confusing.

    It looks like the model takes as input a state (structured text? not sure if multi-modal) and a question (as a "Choice", "Score", or "Noul") with some additional augmentations possible. Then outputs the question's answers as appropriate (e.g. a choice, accompanying probabilities, confidence).

    Edit: On the AI primer page, it looks like they do the RLCD on a pre-trained base model?

    [0]:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.typesafe.ai&#x2F;concepts&#x2F;system-one" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.typesafe.ai&#x2F;concepts&#x2F;system-one

    1. CompleteSkeptic · · focus · HN ↗
      CEO here - that is right!

      I do agree that the comparison to LLM tokens is hard to understand (also because output tokens are not comparable).

      But yes, text or structured state (like a JSON with multiple pieces of text in) -&gt; decisions out (e.g. choice maps to &quot;match&quot; statement, &quot;score&quot; maps to sorting, &quot;noul&quot; short for bernoulli maps to if-statements)

      1. mijoharas · · focus · HN ↗
        Small request, can we get an explanation of the naming of &quot;noul&quot; in the docs[0]. I tried googling, and searching the docs and didn&#x27;t understand why it was called that.

        (I&#x27;d also argue something like p_yes or just probability might be a simpler name, but I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s a better reason behind Bernoulli maps).

        [0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.typesafe.ai&#x2F;primitives&#x2F;noul#noul" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.typesafe.ai&#x2F;primitives&#x2F;noul#noul

        1. safeandsound · · focus · HN ↗
          Im going to guess bernoulli
          1. mijoharas · · focus · HN ↗
            It is Bernoulli (mentioned in the comment I replied to). I just failed to guess that myself :)
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