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  1. cfowles · · focus · HN ↗
    Wasn&#x27;t really till seeing this home assistant demo they have (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.loom.com&#x2F;share&#x2F;18c4dbcf8db546dfb2d7f2ef018e78e4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.loom.com&#x2F;share&#x2F;18c4dbcf8db546dfb2d7f2ef018e78e4) that the value really clicked for me.

    Seems really cool.

    1. wg0 · · focus · HN ↗
      That&#x27;s good.

      Side note - just like most people don&#x27;t need an intelligent personal assistant to manage and respond their emails and book their flights, most people also don&#x27;t need smart homes. Century old toggle switches are more than enough in a 3 room apartment or 5 room house unless you have a mention.

      1. qingcharles · · focus · HN ↗
        My primary beef with smart home (having tried it) is that every person that visits your home ends up confused about some element of it. A light switch that goes up and down is universally understood.
        1. apexalpha · · focus · HN ↗
          My smarthome has regular switches and wifi.

          There&#x27;s no reason to not do both.

          Also a quick NFC sticker in each room taking you to a small HTML site containing settings (temp, ventilation, lights, shutters, setting a alarm by the lights) has been golden.

          No one wants to: download Shelly app + AC app + look for ventilation IR controller + figure out how casting works for the TV + figure out how to use the Shelly app to turn lights into an alarm. It&#x27;s too much friction for little gain. But a quick tap? Great.

          But tapping your phone on a NFC sticker bringing all those controls together per room in stead of per category (all lights in Shelly app. Person in room #1 has no interests in the lights in room #4 at the same time.).

          IF you tap it while not on Wifi yet it just tells you to connect to Wifi. :-)

          One &quot;all house&quot; sticker next to the front door allows any last person leaving or first person entering to put the entire house in active &#x2F; idle mode.

          Works wonders. And as soon as local AI is quick enough the stickers will be a microphone!

          1. throwaway314155 · · focus · HN ↗
            That&#x27;s clever and all - solid setup, good work. But I still think you either overestimate the average house guest or have particularly savvy&#x2F;young house guests.
            1. apexalpha · · focus · HN ↗
              Most people think it&#x27;s cool but use it once.

              The regular-ceiling-lights-as-alarm service gets positive feedback. Weird how smarthome companies never market that, seems easy win.

              1. Atreiden · · focus · HN ↗
                Not sure I totally understand what you mean by light alarms. Do you just flash ceiling lights to notify the user of something?
                1. apexalpha · · focus · HN ↗
                  No they gradually turn on from 0% to 60% to simulate sunrise. Accompanied by the shutters slowly opening, if you want.

                  Then after 20 min an actual alarm goes off, just in case.

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