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Introducing System One Models and Jev

1989 points · 520 comments · albelfio

  1. jacobgold · · focus · HN ↗
    First, congrats to the team on launching something genuinely interesting and new.

    Seems like a more accurate title would be "Jev: Trading general purpose generation for fast typed inference" or something like that.

    This is interesting, but the speed comparison seems misleading? A generative model that can output code in a Turing-complete language can do anything a computer can do.

    Jev can only generate structured output, right? This is probably super useful for classification/routing/scoring, but it's nothing like the code generating models we're all using today for code and automation.

    Also "can't hallucinate" seems wrong? Sure, it can't emit an invalid type, but it can still emit a completely wrong valid value. You can enforce structured output from an LLM too, with an appropriate harness, etc.

    Assuming there's no funny business, the Doom demo is cool.

    1. Flere-Imsaho · · focus · HN ↗
      > Jev can only generate structured output, right? This is probably super useful for classification/routing/scoring,

      My first thought was that it would be ideal for robotics? As in control of limbs, general planning, route finding, etc.

      1. copperx · · focus · HN ↗
        Um, Isn't SELF DRIVING the elephant in the room?
        1. aryamccarthy · · focus · HN ↗
          Only if you think that everyone cares about self-driving. Lots of niches require structured domains; self-driving is just one that has a lot of capital thrown at it.
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