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Introducing System One Models and Jev

1989 points · 520 comments · albelfio

  1. 2001zhaozhao · · focus · HN ↗
    Hasn't there been a lot talk about Astra's opaque reasoning capabilities (being able to think through complex questions without using a chain of thought)?

    Given that, can't you just replicate Jev by telling Astra "here is the question, you must make a multiple choice decision / output a score between 1-10, please answer directly in a single word, no reasoning allowed"?

    (Edit: Ok, Jev is much cheaper in input tokens so these two aren't directly comparable at all)

    1. CompleteSkeptic · · focus · HN ↗
      the edit is right - jev would be cheaper, faster, and more self-consistent (in general)

      we actually use astra (and fable) in this way for our evals: evals.typesafe.ai

      someone on the team cooked hard on that and it shows example traces comparing our model to opus/sol

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