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Introducing System One Models and Jev

1989 points · 520 comments · albelfio

  1. dinobones · · focus · HN ↗
    This is a good product but the naming/branding is pretty unfortunate.

    Typesafe.AI sounds like some typescript/structured output type of tool…

    What even is “system one” ?

    IMO the product/tech is really there, just needs better communication.

    1. toddmorey · · focus · HN ↗
      I mean, it's a structured output model that (apparently) can't hallucinate. I don't mind the name.
      1. flyinglizard · · focus · HN ↗
        It can't hallucinate, but it doesn't mean it can't make wrong decisions. Just because it adheres to a specific output format at all time, while LLMs have the output format at their mercy, then the claim of not hallucinating is made technically true.

        I think that this specific part is not super interesting if your harness just recovers from invalid LLM outputs.

        The latency and cost - yes, those are super interesting.

        1. mhitza · · focus · HN ↗
          You can get rigid output format from &quot;classic&quot; LLMs <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.vllm.ai&#x2F;en&#x2F;latest&#x2F;features&#x2F;structured_outputs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.vllm.ai&#x2F;en&#x2F;latest&#x2F;features&#x2F;structured_outputs&#x2F; though model support is limited.

          Would like to have something like in the original post but open weights.

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