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Introducing System One Models and Jev

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  1. big_toast · · focus · HN ↗
    It seems like the docs[0] are a better explanation? The comparison to llm tokens is kinda confusing.

    It looks like the model takes as input a state (structured text? not sure if multi-modal) and a question (as a "Choice", "Score", or "Noul") with some additional augmentations possible. Then outputs the question's answers as appropriate (e.g. a choice, accompanying probabilities, confidence).

    Edit: On the AI primer page, it looks like they do the RLCD on a pre-trained base model?

    [0]:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.typesafe.ai&#x2F;concepts&#x2F;system-one" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.typesafe.ai&#x2F;concepts&#x2F;system-one

    1. CompleteSkeptic · · focus · HN ↗
      CEO here - that is right!

      I do agree that the comparison to LLM tokens is hard to understand (also because output tokens are not comparable).

      But yes, text or structured state (like a JSON with multiple pieces of text in) -&gt; decisions out (e.g. choice maps to &quot;match&quot; statement, &quot;score&quot; maps to sorting, &quot;noul&quot; short for bernoulli maps to if-statements)

      1. ianbutler · · focus · HN ↗
        I see this super interestingly as the &quot;subconscious&quot; to the llms &quot;conscious&quot; for lack of better terms. I&#x27;m super interested in this for broad and rapid decision making in the context of consumer agents so will be signing up for sure.
        1. CompleteSkeptic · · focus · HN ↗
          1. I am extremely on the same page 2. I do think that subconscious is not only much smarter than we give it credit for, but also much more robust than the &quot;jagged frontier&quot; of current LLMs

          (shilling my blog post on that jaggedness: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.completeskeptic.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;lies-damned-lies-and-benchmarks" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.completeskeptic.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;lies-damned-lies-and-bench...)

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