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1989 points · 520 comments · albelfio

  1. torginus · · focus · HN ↗
    I was thinking about something similar (maybe) - generally speaking, embeddings for LLMs tend to learn real world concepts - things like 'fruit' or 'France' or 'city' as directions in embeddings.

    But in things like programming, most concepts are abstract - 'if hungry eat an apple' in programming terms would look like

    'if hunger > 50 {apples--; hunger-=30;}'

    and compilers work with 'concept erasure' - to them, tokens (which are like llm tokens) look like

    'if var1 > 50 {var2--;var1-=30}'.

    They don't care about how these things map to real concepts. So all the embedding directions used to encode real-world concepts are just noise to LLMs when programming. This greatly reduces dimensionality and training costs. So does a token representation tuned for programming constructs, rather than natural language would probably have a more efficient encoding.

    1. ta988 · · focus · HN ↗
      Current models go beyond the simple embedding because you start to encode groups of concepts in the context-aware part of the model (attention heads or any other method). So it is never simply words/tokens in isolation anymore.
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