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An update on Wayback Machine access

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  1. msephton · · focus · HN ↗
    I've been getting this error a lot. Asking users to email them with details of their OS, browser, IP address is just crazy. Their support is supposedly already swamped and they are asking for more!? Changes made by IA shouldn't become my responsibility.
    1. jolmg · · focus · HN ↗
      > Asking users to email them with details of their OS, browser, IP address is just crazy.

      It's surely to serve as data to help tell humans apart from bots.

      > Changes made by IA shouldn't become my responsibility.

      They're a free service. It's ultimately not their responsibility to service you either.

      1. msephton · · focus · HN ↗
        Imagine if Apple or Microsoft introduced a bug and said, ah yes we know about it we did that on purpose and we know it affects a huge number of people, if each of you could email us these details that'd be great. It's just such an insane request.

        IA have broken it and have no real idea how to make it better so they are going to whitelist IPs or browsers or entire operating systems? Wild.

        1. HDBaseT · · focus · HN ↗
          Who do you think the Internet Archive is? They are not Google, they have very low funding, very high expenses and are constantly under legal pressure.

          The fact you can even access the Internet Archive for free is a result of tens thousands of human hours striving for one goal. Digital Preservation. If you rely so much on IA, you should consider donating.

          1. msephton · · focus · HN ↗
            I do donate. But that doesn't mean I have to thank them before every meal or think that the service is perfect.
            1. HDBaseT · · focus · HN ↗
              What do you expect them to do though? You have to be a reasonable person.
              1. msephton · · focus · HN ↗
                Data analysis would be a good start, better blocking heuristics, an off-the-shelf solution used by other organisations that don't have this problem, etc.
                1. HDBaseT · · focus · HN ↗

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