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1. lousken · 1789498494 · focus · HN ↗

   AI companies should pay billions to wayback machine for access

   1. KPGv2 · 1789499055 · focus · HN ↗

      I think that'd raise serious copyright concerns, if the Wayback machine started selling other people's intellectual property.

      1. roblh · 1789499442 · focus · HN ↗

         Shouldn’t it follow that it’s illegal for the AI labs to profit off of all of that stolen copyrighted data too?

         1. [deleted] · 1789499983 · focus · HN ↗

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         2. Joel_Mckay · 1789500219 · focus · HN ↗

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         3. mitxela · 1789557536 · focus · HN ↗

            It should, but it doesn't.
         4. KPGv2 · 1789948862 · focus · HN ↗

            no. The topic at hand is distribution of copyrighted material, and you're talking about reproduction and possibly preparation of a derivative work.

            At last in the USA, copyright law defines specific things copyright owners have exclusive rights to:

            - reproduction - preparation of derivative works - distribution of copies to the public - public performance - public display

            The most immediate issue with AI companies is whether they've made infringing reproductions.

            The other possibility is the preparation of derivative works: does an AI response count as derivative of something it's consumed?

            Sorry I'm not going to do the analysis for you, though. I'm no longer a bright, chipper IP law scholar.

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