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Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

493 points · 328 comments · leumon

  1. Zsfe510asG · · focus · HN ↗
    Gemini is underrated in that it produces the only prose that is somewhat bearable to read.
    1. WarmWash · · focus · HN ↗
      For heavyweight work I have been using Astra, but for rabbit holes and brain storming Gemini is far more enjoyable to interact with.

      I'm worried in their push to catch up on the SOTA front, it's going to lose that natural sounding touch it currently has.

      1. drivebyhooting · · focus · HN ↗
        Mostly because it answers quickly and is more agreeable (too agreeable at times).

        Meanwhile Claude and Astra like to couch all their agreements with caveats and provisos.

        1. jakderrida · · focus · HN ↗
          "couch all their agreements with caveats and provisos."

          When you're a ChatGPT Projects or Claude Projects user, those caveats and provisos are your worst enemy because they'll change caveats into hard rules (either for the session or committed to memories) and you end up in absolute hell having to make it investigate to figure out why it can no longer produce anything but read-only pre-check code that never actually does anything but keeps performing stupid safety checks.

          1. avereveard · · focus · HN ↗
            Yep the only way out is hooks to forbid what can be detected by ast and second model to prune comments, flatten pyramids of fallback, and squash the test suite removing quirks maintaining wanted behaviors.
          2. ankurshv · · focus · HN ↗

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