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Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

493 points · 328 comments · leumon

  1. Zsfe510asG · · focus · HN ↗
    Gemini is underrated in that it produces the only prose that is somewhat bearable to read.
    1. phenomen · · focus · HN ↗
      It's also the only model that generates accurate translation and localization. No other frontier model comes close. Although Gemini's coding capabilities are subpar, its natural language processing is top-tier.
      1. thisgoodlife · · focus · HN ↗
        I’m curious how you guys keep track of each model’s coding capabilities. The landscape keeps changing. I don’t suppose you benchmark all frontier models every other month, right?
        1. riddlemethat · · focus · HN ↗
          I use them. Daily. Gemini hasn’t been a contender by comparison for a long time.
          1. baq · · focus · HN ↗
            True but it has a niche in SQL reviews for me. Looks like Google has a lot of good sql in their corpus and in their RL digital lobotomy factory.
          2. safog · · focus · HN ↗
            I wonder if it's a harness thing or a model thing at this point. I feel all coding models are quite capable for most tasks I want them to do.

            Most of the time I don't need what the bench tests and I'm not really giving them completely ambiguous tasks without any refinement.

            I only find marginal differences between models at this point and it almost feels like personality quirks in each model than anything.

            1. BenzeneDream · · focus · HN ↗
              When comparing OpenAI and Claude thats pretty much true, but not Gemini... And have you tried Antigravity? Yikes
              1. vrosas · · focus · HN ↗
                The CLI version of agy is great. Have you tried it?
                1. taylorfinley · · focus · HN ↗
                  Do you dangerously allow permissions? I absolutely cannot use it until they ship an auto approver. As it is now I have it write one bash/python script to do everything it wants to, then I review that. Otherwise it is COMPLETELY unusable and it shocks me when I hear people are using it.
                  1. xnx · · focus · HN ↗
                    Sounds like they shipped some changes today that might reduce approvals: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;antigravity&#x2F;status&#x2F;2100001904969297980" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;antigravity&#x2F;status&#x2F;2100001904969297980
                  2. andai · · focus · HN ↗

                      alias agy=&quot;agy --dangerously-skip-permissions&quot;
                  3. cute_boi · · focus · HN ↗
                    is anti gravity open sourced just like codex or grok code?
                  4. vrosas · · focus · HN ↗
                    Yes, but I dangerously allow claude and codex, too...
                  5. akho · · focus · HN ↗
                    Why not allow everything? It&#x27;s not like it can do much inside the container.
                2. VectorLock · · focus · HN ↗
                  Compared to gemini-cli that they took out behind the woodshed, I hate it.
              2. qingcharles · · focus · HN ↗
                I&#x27;ve used Antigravity as my main coding agent on one of my biggest projects for about a year. It&#x27;s been great for me. (and I use Claude, Codex, Grok and Muse for all the other projects)
          3. le-mark · · focus · HN ↗
            I did a test involving implementing cobol control flow in Java for a source to source translation project. Gemini was the only model to get the edge cases. Cobol is very peculiar in this regard.
            1. robotmay · · focus · HN ↗
              It&#x27;s very good at Elixir in my experience too. And it just does what I ask and doesn&#x27;t wind me up like Opus. I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve had to insult it more than once per day.
          4. adventured · · focus · HN ↗
            I had a typical $20 Gemini plan that I just downgraded to their $5 plan (to keep access to some of the models). It had been so long since I let Gemini work on (or review) any code &#x2F; design &#x2F; html (anything) that I couldn&#x27;t justify bothering to keep wasting money on it. It fell behind badly over the past year. Astra might as well be an alien super intelligence at code compared to Gemini. I enjoy talking to Gemini, it is very good at conversation, I get solid answers to everyday questions. I intend to keep the $5 plan indefinitely for basic use. I don&#x27;t expect they&#x27;ll ever resurface as a competitor in coding with Astra &amp; Fable et al.
        2. MoreThanMe · · focus · HN ↗

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