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Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

493 points · 328 comments · leumon

  1. bronlund · · focus · HN ↗
    They should just give up at this point, it's just embarrassing to watch.

    As PrimeTime said; these are the guys that invented the 'T' in 'GPT', that deployed their first TPU in 2015, that is using billions on AI - and they are beaten by 300 people startup named Moonshot AI even. People are going to write books about this complete fumble.

    1. password54321 · · focus · HN ↗
      None of the startups are profitable. What exactly are they getting beaten at?

      My advice is to listen less to brainrot 'influencers' that optimise for engagement through sensationalism.

      1. bronlund · · focus · HN ↗
        Intelligence.

        They have "unlimited" resources and has researched AI since the very beginning - PageRank is a form of AI even. And still, Gemini is behind Claude, GPT, Grok, Muse, GLM, Kimi and is maybe on par with DeepSeek?

        As I said, it is embarrassing.

        1. [deleted] · · focus · HN ↗

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