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1. brudgers · 1789412798 · focus · HN ↗

   [edit: for clarity, I am not against roundabouts]

   I don't have real expertise in civil engineering

   Traffic lights have a smaller physical footprint and require less construction activity.

   Traffic lights fit on a cost spectrum from two stop sighs, to four stop signs, to stop signs plus blinking lights, to non-trivial signaling.

   First make it work. Then make it good. Then make it fast.

   Engineering is not a one size fits all discipline.

   [edit: I have a background in urban planning, architecture, and real-estate development]

   1. rightnutwingjob · 1789522867 · focus · HN ↗

      You forgot roundabouts with traffic lights.

      Here’s one in Australia near Perth:

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;h8lhX9Q6Z5g?si=eloUWLcH8q3eJiZH" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;h8lhX9Q6Z5g?si=eloUWLcH8q3eJiZH

      And I’m certain I’ve driven through other roundabouts with traffic lights in other states.

      1. antonvs · 1789571898 · focus · HN ↗

         New Jersey has at least one roundabout, with traffic lights, and a 6-lane divided highway through the middle: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maps.app.goo.gl&#x2F;2XoctqrtbfYGD7q48" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maps.app.goo.gl&#x2F;2XoctqrtbfYGD7q48

         I assume the person who designed that was 6 months away from retiring to Florida.

         1. rightnutwingjob · 1789590108 · focus · HN ↗

            That gives new meaning to “drive straight through the roundabout”.

            What a legacy. I’m having a vicarious chuck now.

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