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Qwen3.8 Max now ranked as the best overall model by agentic index

524 points · 329 comments · apitman

eli · 1786043776 · focus · HN ↗
I believe it. It's extremely good at troubleshooting. I gave Qwen and Kimi K3 the same annoying, complicated, intermittent bug to track down. Kimi did a bit better in understanding the existing code, but Qwen built some diagnostic tools and did an excellent statistical analysis on the log data. Qwen got way closer to the truth.
I'm very much looking forward to their forthcoming smaller model Qwen 3.8 releases. A version that can easily run locally would be great.
1. comboy · 1786044448 · focus · HN ↗
  How CLI are you guys using for qwen and kimi?
  1. eli · 1786044745 · focus · HN ↗
    I use <a href="https://pi.dev/" rel="nofollow">https://pi.dev/ which works fine out of the box but is fairly minimal and intended to be customized. There are many extensions.
    OpenCode or oh-my-pi might make more sense if you just want a batteries-included agent. You can also make Claude Code work with other models without too much work, but I think that's asking for headaches.
    Gooblebrai · 1786047151 · focus · HN ↗
    Is there any subscription of any kind for Qwen? Or via Pi.dev needs to be used with API credits?
    iAMkenough · 1786047534 · focus · HN ↗
    My first web search turned up this as the top result <a href="https://www.alibabacloud.com/help/en/model-studio/coding-plan" rel="nofollow">https://www.alibabacloud.com/help/en/model-studio/coding-pla...
    adamgoodapp · 1786086875 · focus · HN ↗
    Currently only these models are available: qwen3.7-plus (vision), qwen3.6-plus (vision), kimi-k2.5 (vision), glm-5, and MiniMax-M2.5

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