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Qwen3.8 Max now ranked as the best overall model by agentic index

420 points · 270 comments · apitman

  1. theropost · · focus · HN ↗
    Anthropic is a bit nuts, I had $260 of credits on my max account for the extra usage the other night. It was expiring, so I figured I'll fire up an agentic swarm to deep dive and make some deep changes to some old cold bases.. literally 25 minutes or less, $260 burnt, it didn't get get into the implementation, just wrote a ton of useless plans for the most part. It really opened my eyes to what they expect to charge people.. wayyyy overpriced.
    1. mikae1 · · focus · HN ↗
      And at that cost they're still not profitable. It's going to be a bumpy road ahead...
      1. arrowleaf · · focus · HN ↗
        I thought they are making a profit on API pricing? A quick Google shows somewhere between 50-70% margins on API inference.
        1. bakugo · · focus · HN ↗
          API pricing is almost definitely profitable, but at this point I assume it's a small minority of their inference traffic compared to subscription usage, and unlikely to make up for the rest of their expenses on its own.
          1. enedil · · focus · HN ↗
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