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Qwen3.8 Max now ranked as the best overall model by agentic index

403 points · 261 comments · apitman

  1. theropost · · focus · HN ↗
    Anthropic is a bit nuts, I had $260 of credits on my max account for the extra usage the other night. It was expiring, so I figured I'll fire up an agentic swarm to deep dive and make some deep changes to some old cold bases.. literally 25 minutes or less, $260 burnt, it didn't get get into the implementation, just wrote a ton of useless plans for the most part. It really opened my eyes to what they expect to charge people.. wayyyy overpriced.
    1. cortesoft · · focus · HN ↗
      It’s crazy how different the credit cost and subscription cost are.

      With the $200 subscription, I can have Fable on ultracode working for hours and not dent the usage limits.

      1. AlexandrB · · focus · HN ↗
        VCs are footing the bill for that $200 subscription.
        1. ericd · · focus · HN ↗
          They have something like 80% gross margins, are at a $100B/yr ARR, and are growing at 10x per year... If that keeps up, they're going to be doing more revenue than Google in a year ($400B ARR, 20% per year growth)
          1. dexwiz · · focus · HN ↗
            How can you sanely project the last 12 months forward? We have seen a huge uptick in usage. Last summer AI was a toy to most devs, now every enterprise developer I talked to uses it every day. Coding agent providers are surely going to hit market saturation in the near future.
            1. ericd · · focus · HN ↗
              [delayed]
          2. jddj · · focus · HN ↗
            And in just three short years, more than earth's GDP.
        2. ux266478 · · focus · HN ↗
          At last, a valid usecase for VCs.
          1. dionian · · focus · HN ↗
            i'll take it, just hope they dont rugpull us soon. im sure its coming
        3. riknos314 · · focus · HN ↗
          The $200 sub is customer acquisition cost to hook devs that then become the marketing team trying to get their company to bring in Claude (at the highly profitable API price).
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