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Qwen3.8 Max now ranked as the best overall model by agentic index

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  1. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
    Strange that the page <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artificialanalysis.ai&#x2F;agents&#x2F;coding-agents" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artificialanalysis.ai&#x2F;agents&#x2F;coding-agents doesn&#x27;t even mention &quot;Qwen&quot; once if it&#x27;s now the &quot;best&quot; according to one of their one index?
    1. moritzwarhier · · focus · HN ↗
      Does &quot;artificial analysis&quot; mean what it says? Dubious.

      But: I&#x27;ve been very impressed by the larger Qwen Models, and a brief try of Kimi also impressed me.

      A lingering sense of quality degradation when going deep remains.

      But that&#x27;s not an accusation: they seem to be hitting the compute&#x2F;quality tradeoff extremely well.

      And on-prem capability is simply irreplaceable.

      Apart from all the innovations that were driven by the strive for this optimization: quantization, &quot;distilling&quot; (without obvious mad-cows-disease)... I think China was an invaluable player in this progress. Intuitively, I&#x27;d even go so far to speculate that LLaMa wouldn&#x27;t exist without the competition.

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