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A handful of cities have replaced Flock with Axon

92 points · 41 comments · cdrnsf

  1. SoftTalker · · focus · HN ↗
    Prediction: Flock acquires Axon.
    1. eth0up · · focus · HN ↗
      Prediction: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49053193">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49053193

      Axon just replaces Flock in some places. But I forgot to say that it probably doesn&#x27;t matter much, and that whatever anyone resents about the whole thing, will just get worse.

      1. Cider9986 · · focus · HN ↗
        These are literally city councils in many places. They&#x27;re not our overlords.
        1. eth0up · · focus · HN ↗
          That&#x27;s fine too. I didn&#x27;t intend to create a point of dispute. That&#x27;s just my writing style which lends itself to selective interpretation. Understood.

          The masses, or &#x27;other&#x27; population, whoever it is that protests this variety of surveillance; the angry minority&#x2F;ineffectual-majority, the misguided few&#x2F;many that don&#x27;t embrace the panopticon, etc. Regardless, it&#x27;s not going away. From here onward, whatever form of surveillance or control it is, it&#x27;s not going away. Eternal whackamole, eternal malcontent, we can hate it and spray-paint it all we want, but the only means to stop it is the one most people are either not capable of, or do not believe they are capable of, and it does not involve vandalism, feeble expressions of frothing contempt or anything but serious organized and unfortunately, legal methodology. Everything else is mostly symbolic, in a time when public opinion is less valuable than ever, and symbols offer little more than forensic evidence and fuel for long-term counter strategy.

          Flock, Axon, ARGUS-IS, Xfinity CSI multi-AP WiFi sensing fusion, evil smartphones -- it&#x27;s all here to stay, and evolve, and get pushed in our lives.

          Might is Right. However terribly wrong it might be. And might is especially right when society divests from the primary tool capable of making it wrong. And I think, largely, that is what we&#x27;ve done. A city council is a minority. Whether it represents the majority, is, I think, not always consistent.

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