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Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

187 points · 129 comments · willcarkner

  1. seizethecheese · · focus · HN ↗
    I ran a hardware startup for about a decade. We ended up doing all PCB assembly in China. We did try to find this in the USA, but it was indeed too slow and expensive.

    The bottleneck in assembling a PCB is usually component sourcing. My product was not the most complicated, and even then, to assemble in Shenzhen, China, it often took a few weeks to get all the components.

    The core issue here is that latency is determined by the outliers. Assembly can't start until you have all units, and the hardest to source one is the bottleneck!

    To me, the core innovation here is to plug into the design software to source these long tail items ahead of time.

    It's pretty interesting that usually when the PCB is being designed, the designer has no awareness of supply chain. They'll bake in a chip that has a 4 week lead time without even realizing it, when a similar component might be one cent more expensive with much faster lead time.

    1. willcarkner · · focus · HN ↗
      This is our first step to work more closely with the designer throughout the process.

      Currently there's a wall between the designer and the manufacturer, which hurts lead times massively, we're aiming to bring that down.

      1. awesomeusername · · focus · HN ↗
        I'd love a kicad plugin where not just lead times but current stock etc are showed live, and for anything marginal a button I can smash to order it in advance.

        Even if 50% of the time I didn't end up using that component, that would still be an amazing service.

        We pre-order parts to JLC during the design process. I know people using JLC aren't your target but my advise would be to not ignore how gloriously friction-less it is now buying parts into private inventory - and with no ongoing fees as well. They have really nailed it.

        1. pbronez · · focus · HN ↗
          Some financial engineering could help here too. That abandoned inventory is useful to somebody, but warehousing can be non trivial… how do you get liquid and reroute the parts?

          There’s some flavor of consignment waiting to happen here.

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