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1. MostlyStable · 1786032363 · focus · HN ↗

   I take the point, but I think the author picked a poor analogy. Cooking even an excellent steak is actually not that hard. In fact, I'd argue that it's among the easiest things to master/make at a top level quality at home. Does it require some modicum of attention and understanding? Sure. But starting with a high quality cut, owning a meat-thermometer, and knowing about reverse searing is about all it takes to reliably and easily get a near perfect steak every time.

   There are far, far better cooking examples out there.

   1. onlyrealcuzzo · 1786034097 · focus · HN ↗

      I also don't think the analogy will age well.

      It might take more than 10 years, but robots will almost certainly master cooking single pieces of meat.

      It's substantially harder to reach self driving than it is to cook a "good" steak.

      Sure, for probably quite a long time you'll be able to find someone who can cook a way better steak than the best robot, especially because taste is extremely subjective...

      You can debate the horizon and the extent, but changes ARE coming.

      Change is the only thing you can count on besides death.

      1. gffrd · 1786040633 · focus · HN ↗

         > It's substantially harder to reach self driving than it is to cook a "good" steak.

         Well, we don't know that, because neither have been achieved.

         1. onlyrealcuzzo · 1786040820 · focus · HN ↗

            > Well, we don't know that, because neither have been achieved.

            Sure, we will completely ignore Waymo and move goal posts...

            1. officeplant · 1786041517 · focus · HN ↗

               Is it moving the goalposts to ask Waymo to demonstrate a drive across America and not in well mapped cities with only lower speeds? How did we define "self driving"?

               1. onlyrealcuzzo · 1786042186 · focus · HN ↗

                  No True Scotsman only drives in the city. All True Scotsmen drive across the entire U.S. of A.

                  Waymo has completed 20 MILLION autonomous rides, 6.5m last quarter alone...

                  At what point does it get to say it can self-drive? When there's not a single non-self-driven car left on the road?

                  1. officeplant · 1786042482 · focus · HN ↗

                     >drive across the entire U.S. of A.

                     I'm still working on collecting the drive to all states badge. I've only accomplished half. I calculated my total driving since getting a license recently and its approx. ~360k miles or around 17k miles a year.

                     If Waymo can eventually handle rural life in the US I'd be seriously impressed.

                     1. onlyrealcuzzo · 1786042823 · focus · HN ↗

                        It's not going to for a long time because the cost/benefit isn't there...

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