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1. whazor · 1786022895 · focus · HN ↗

   This is a good case for custom harness/sandbox engineering.

   1. kibwen · 1786023067 · focus · HN ↗

      I hope that the people doing real engineering work out there have started thinking about a new term to describe themselves as a result of the irreparable harm the tech industry has done to the word "engineer".

      1. ux266478 · 1786024970 · focus · HN ↗

         I think you're confused. The verb form of the word never carried the credentialism of the title. In the same way that "doctoring" never carried the connotation of a medical degree.

         Of course the original sense of the noun was "a person who devises things" and shares a root with "ingenious" and carried no connotation of legal credential. That "harm" is more or less restorative to the original meaning of the word.

         1. kibwen · 1786034930 · focus · HN ↗

            I'm not referring to the verb form, I'm referring to the people who call themselves things like "prompt engineer" or "software engineer" with a straight face, draping themselves in a false legitimacy stolen from professionals for whom the term "engineer" actually implied something of note. It's embarrassing, or it would be if people were still possessed of the capacity for shame.

            1. ux266478 · 1786039074 · focus · HN ↗

               > I'm not referring to the verb form

               The original post prompting your complaint used the verb form. And hence why you're confused.

               > It's embarrassing, or it would be if people were still possessed of the capacity for shame.

               It's far more shameful to fly off the cuff with a non-sequitur by your own admission, and double down on yelling at the clouds when called out for it. And about an arbitrary point in a semantic treadmill, no less. Your take away is that it was never something of note for these people, and trying to pick semantic fights with them over it just makes crying about legitimacy ironically turn into pure pretense.

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