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Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage

391 points · 454 comments · lladnar

  1. frozenseven · · focus · HN ↗
    LLM-first development is the future. If you don't like it then, yes, you should quit.
    1. _luci_ · · focus · HN ↗
      Yeah you're right, it IS entirely fair to suddenly and quickly push the group that built your industry out of the industry. They should all just find new jobs, because that's very easy and simple. Thankfully we have bright minds like you to replace the talent lost, because with AI you can truly do anything your heart desires!

      Obvious sarcasm aside, these LLMs have been trained (without consent!) on our hard work, on our passion. People have been writing code for years, and many have open-sourced their projects to share their knowledge, to better the world, to provide free solutions to problems. All that hard work, all that effort, has been stolen and used to create a machine that replaces us. And when we complain that quality goes down, that work is no longer enjoyable, that we don't actually see huge noticable productivity improvements across the board, bright minds like you tell us "lol just quit man fuck you". Do you not feel bad that you are actively destroying the livelihood of the very people that made your slop machine viable to build?

      1. frozenseven · · focus · HN ↗
        >without consent

        Don't need it.

        >Do you not feel bad

        No, of course not. I feel good that technology is getting better and bitter activists are getting replaced.

        As was said in that thread: "The age of the glorified individual is over - the collective mind is the future and the now. You will either be consumed by it, or trampled by it. It's time to ant up or fossil out."

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