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Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage

391 points · 454 comments · lladnar

  1. QuantumNoodle · · focus · HN ↗
    A hobby is something you enjoy the process of doing, not just the end result. Everybody likes a clean home, but cleaning is rarely a hobby. LLMs expedite achieving the end result. Take from that what you will.
    1. ryandvm · · focus · HN ↗
      Yeah, in my experience, the people that got into software engineering because of the money are absolutely thrilled with how LLMs are changing the industry. They mostly just liked getting results and LLMs are great for that.

      The people like me that sort of just stumbled into this career as a result of spending the evenings of our youth trying to get the computer to do interesting things don't seem to have as much appreciation now that the LLMs are taking over the fun part.

      1. darkstarsys · · focus · HN ↗
        If I&#x27;m any example, I&#x27;m on the other side. I got into computers in the &#x27;70s: plotter art, BASIC, then Z-80s, forth, PDP11s, Amigas and so to now with GPUs and supercomputers and visualization. I&#x27;m recently retired and having enormous fun plowing through my lifetime backlog of &quot;wouldn&#x27;t that be a cool tool&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pcons.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pcons.org) or a climate visualization (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;globe-viz.oberbrunner.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;globe-viz.oberbrunner.com) or a travel packing list app (packzen) or a bunch of 3d printer tools... so on and so on. Totally co-engineered with Claude. What we&#x27;re doing together, and getting out to the world as useful open source projects, is easily 10x what I could&#x27;ve done on my own, in the limited time available to me in this life.
        1. dboreham · · focus · HN ↗
          Very similar story (right down to the pdp-11s).
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