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Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage

391 points · 454 comments · lladnar

  1. QuantumNoodle · · focus · HN ↗
    A hobby is something you enjoy the process of doing, not just the end result. Everybody likes a clean home, but cleaning is rarely a hobby. LLMs expedite achieving the end result. Take from that what you will.
    1. MostlyStable · · focus · HN ↗
      Exactly. I have a backyard garden not because I need the food (it would be infinitely cheaper and easier to buy even high end farm-stand vegetables), but because I enjoy gardening. Buying a gardening robot (if such a thing existed) would completely defeat the point.

      I use an LLM to make custom software for myself not because I enjoy coding but because I want software that I can't afford to hire a human to make for me. Buying a robot to do it (current agentic coding LLMs) is the only way it gets done at all.

      These two things are not the same, and should not be viewed in the same light.

      All that being said, I would 100% buy a weeding robot. Weeding sucks.

      1. jmaw · · focus · HN ↗
        These are not completely different things, but maybe different sides of the same coin.

        You enjoy the act of gardening, so you do not automate it away.

        You enjoy the clean home, not the act of cleaning, so you may be interested in automating it away.

        It seems you enjoy designing or using software, as opposed to programming/building software. So you automate the programming/building away.

        1. MostlyStable · · focus · HN ↗
          Sure, that's fair. I enjoy the process of figuring out ways software can solve some (usually quite trivial) problem for myself, but then I'm very happy to hand the act of making it to a robot.
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