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Show HN: Modern Browsers Don't Need the Cookie Anymore

22 points · 26 comments · kuberwastaken

  1. thisisauserid · · focus · HN ↗
    More like, Tell HN: advertisers don't need cookies to track you anymore!
    1. kuberwastaken · · focus · HN ↗
      potato potato haha ; sadly advertisers aren't the only ones tracking us these days
  2. voidUpdate · · focus · HN ↗
    > "Your CPU is ARM-family — we know from a single subtraction"

    Not sure what went wrong for you but I'm running an i9

    > "Your battery is at 100%"

    I don't think my desktop computer has a battery

    > "Microphones attached = 1, Audio outputs attached = 1"

    Windows audio settings shows 3 inputs and 5 outputs currently

    1. kuberwastaken · · focus · HN ↗
      LMAO will patch
  3. Clamchop · · focus · HN ↗
    > It asked for zero permissions.

    Not quite. It requested to play DRM protected content.

    1. hotsalad · · focus · HN ↗
      And asked to create a WebGL context and to view canvas data.

      Closed and reopened the browser and revisited the site a couple times, and it thought it was my first and gave me a different fingerprint each time.

      1. kuberwastaken · · focus · HN ↗
        removed it! The latter should not be happening anymore either hopefully
    2. kuberwastaken · · focus · HN ↗
      update: removed it, didn't need it and I use chrome so it didn't pop up haha
  4. Trung0246 · · focus · HN ↗
    Nice got different fingerprint across firefox and chrome on android
    1. kuberwastaken · · focus · HN ↗
      Heck yea
  5. znpy · · focus · HN ↗
    > Nice machine, by the way. an Apple M1.

    > 2 CPU cores and a 1920×1200 display. All the bells and whistles.

    i'm actually using a macbook neo and my display resolution is not 1920x1200

    > You've got LaTeX installed. You write academic papers, or you're a grad student.

    no i don't

  6. cvince · · focus · HN ↗
    This is such a clever technical demo. Do you work for Posthog? LOL
    1. kuberwastaken · · focus · HN ↗
      thank you, I don't though hahaha
  7. madiling · · focus · HN ↗
    > What you are using it on > > Your display scaling is set to 150%. > A fractional device pixel ratio (1.5) only comes from Windows display scaling. macOS uses whole-number ratios. So you're on Windows, and you've bumped the UI size up from the default.

    > Device pixel ratio = 1.5

    im on linux though. the page even says earlier that im on a linux box.

    1. kuberwastaken · · focus · HN ↗
      Perks of making this deterministic haha will fix, thank you
    2. dolmen · · focus · HN ↗
      Same issue here. Pixel ratio 1.25 on Linux, Firefox.
  8. zhxiaoliang · · focus · HN ↗
    I looked into my ad profile section and saw that I was worth nothing... I'm not sure if I should be happy or not.
  9. zinekeller · · focus · HN ↗
    Just tested this.

    > Your User-Agent says Windows, but your installed fonts are Linux's. One of those is lying, and it isn't the fonts.

    But also...

    > Voice list = Microsoft David - English (United States) [snip]

    > You use Microsoft Office.

    Considering that this is tested on Windows 11, I think your Linux detection is wonky.

    1. kuberwastaken · · focus · HN ↗
      Tested on MacOS, but will try to patch this
  10. jogu · · focus · HN ↗
    On an iPhone like half of the information was wrong and conflicted prior information. And then stopped responding at the gathering ip, etc part.
  11. Panzerschrek · · focus · HN ↗
    > You're inside a virtual machine.

    It's wrong. I have Hyper-V and VirtualBox installed on my machine, maybe it has some effect?

    > You use Microsoft Office

    No, I don't. It was installed previously, but my license expired.

    1. kuberwastaken · · focus · HN ↗
      Yes, probably detected those, including teams haha
  12. wayknow · · focus · HN ↗

    [dead]

  13. eisleggje · · focus · HN ↗
    Fun site, but it got some things wrong:

    - 8 core cpu. I have 24.

    - devtools open. they are not.

    - primary language. this one is strange, because I'd think the browser declares it pretty loudly. I have a fairly small regional language set as my primary, but it detects English.

    - zero permissions. This is not true, Firefox actively opened a permissions button asking to access other apps and services on the machine. I decided to accept it out of curiosity - it didn't change the results in any way relative to blocking it.

    - first time here. it thinks it's my first time on the page every time I visit.

  14. yev76 · · focus · HN ↗
    Good demo of the gap between "no cookies" and "no tracking". A chunk of the analytics industry sells "cookieless" where under the hood it's exactly this - a fingerprint doing the cookie's job. Easy way to tell the two apart: if a tool can recognize you as a returning visitor across days without ever asking, something is identifying you.
  15. pkphilip · · focus · HN ↗
    I was surprised that it only detected very basic details about me.. and most importantly, it got the display resolution completely wrong!
  16. nocebolauncher · · focus · HN ↗

    [dead]

  17. LargoLasskhyfv · · focus · HN ↗
    TZ wrong.

    Screen resolution wrong. 3200x2200? How does it come up with that?

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